tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post6884318112334303227..comments2024-03-28T17:08:01.559-04:00Comments on Doux Reviews: Star Trek: The MenagerieBillie Douxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17141769005175631213noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-26201910568842452542023-06-27T08:55:56.603-04:002023-06-27T08:55:56.603-04:00I too will mention the Green Orion Slave Girl! I h...I too will mention the Green Orion Slave Girl! I hope that dye was easy to get off and didn't sting! Mirialans are my second favorite race in SWTOR after Chiss so green works for me!<br /><br />But to address the meat of the show. It does show its age as far as how it treats women and physical disabilities as mentioned by Sam before me, but it's still quite a good story. TOS was such a weird mix of progressive values mixed with the sexism and other views that are very dated by today's standards. I would say that this is still a great and fascinating story that was above average for the day. I feel sci fi is at its peak when it covers poignant issues while also being entertaining, and that's not always easy.Morellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08852528242739450099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-76762722847929007452019-03-02T09:30:51.121-05:002019-03-02T09:30:51.121-05:00Sam Smith, I agree with you that this isn't th...Sam Smith, I agree with you that this isn't the best episode for today's audiences. I'd encourage you to check out 'The Trouble with Tribbles,' 'The Enterprise Incident,' 'Balance of Terror,' and 'The City on the Edge of Forever.' All of those are deeply engaging and great episodes, without the stuff that's a product of the culture of the day. Also, it helps to remember that in the time this was made, having a black woman on the bridge who does her job well and isn't a maid was revolutionary. Trek pushed society, even though it didn't push all the way to today's world.CoramDeohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14510669006452859585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-2434028379616261702019-03-01T21:46:25.457-05:002019-03-01T21:46:25.457-05:00This is the first full episode of TOS that ive see...This is the first full episode of TOS that ive seen (watching it now for reasons obvious to discovery viewers) and i think it might be my last. Between the little pieces of sexism that wouldnt fly today, like "wild little animal" and the weird message anyone with disabilities or deformities is better off hiding away in a fantasy, its sensibilities are just too of the time for me to enjoy it. Im not saying that the choice vina and pike made wasnt interesting, but i think modern trek would have a lot more nuanced take on the issue.Sam Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13879857377904211461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-45513805206296754802011-08-12T06:58:58.633-04:002011-08-12T06:58:58.633-04:00Oh, and startrek IV - "The Voyage Home" ...Oh, and startrek IV - "The Voyage Home" was the one with the whales. It helps to remember that this was actually a good Star Trek Movie and, in general, it's the even numbered Star Trek movies that don't suck.Carrie Lucehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17577721721328200842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-43585009763585353472011-08-12T06:55:04.233-04:002011-08-12T06:55:04.233-04:00The series may not have worked with Pike, but the ...The series may not have worked with Pike, but the pilot would NEVER have worked with Kirk - he would have nailed all three women, killed the aliens and gotten all melodramatic about how tragic, but inevitable, it all was.Carrie Lucehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17577721721328200842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-9786863340284375862011-03-08T16:33:33.575-05:002011-03-08T16:33:33.575-05:00So much love for the green slave girl, but not nea...So much love for the green slave girl, but not nearly enough for Andrea the android.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-64750173723729635752010-06-23T13:31:28.534-04:002010-06-23T13:31:28.534-04:00Billie, you so-o hit the nail right on the huge th...Billie, you so-o hit the nail right on the huge throbbing Talosian head about the cast differences between Pike-NumberOne-Spock and Kirk-Spock-Bones. "There was -- and still is -- something uniquely compelling about the character triumvirate of Kirk, Spock and McCoy that spoke to audiences almost immediately." That one sentence perfectly captures, encapsulates, shuttle-crafts the thing that was teasing the edge of my thoughts! <br /><br />The pilot's cast and set designs etc are very much more along the lines of Forbidden Planet, and other SF movies of the 50's. Star Trek the series however is 1960's immediate, and however much still mired in times and mores, radically different than predecessors. Set layouts and props (small phasers versus arm-canons, 747 cocktail lounges versus tight little radio room-sized quarters on a submarine, etc), costumes: all different, all a (sorry for this) paradigm shift forward. And even the relationship structures reflect this, with the pilot's more rigid hierarchy, militaristic approach, wise old doc who's seen it all, being very common in flicks and series to this point: but a coeval civilianesque (yuh-hunh, that could be a word) triumvirate -- now that's something!<br /><br />Great to have had Number One however -- and sorely missed in the series. Wonder if the character would have been there if it hadna been the producer's wife in the role? She's great (as we see in NG etc) and should have been used more: and not just as a pining blond medical secretary (jiminy, shoulda left her hair alone too! Or made it green...)<br /><br />Ben Ben Ben -- Orion Slave Girl, you make me laugh! She was definitely a "Known Known" on the boy's side of the playground at school -- SAY-NO-MORE. And by the way, also seen in the ending credits, just to mess with us before (I think?) AlienFace from The Corbomite Maneuver. But all I can say in personal and all-too-revealing response is: Sherry Jackson! <br /><br />And anyway, that green makeup gets all over everything, I hear.GreenHornethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01400048484864815977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-36543081984990317442010-06-23T10:26:00.462-04:002010-06-23T10:26:00.462-04:00Star Trek 3: Save the Whales? Think you’re getting...<i>Star Trek 3: Save the Whales</i>? Think you’re getting your sequels mixed up there, Ben.<br /><br />Trek 3 was <i>The Second Coming of Spock</i> wherein Kirk saves his fallen friend so that he may rise again by getting his stunt double to smack around Doc Brown.Mark Greighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12984193299389764649noreply@blogger.com