tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post1690490289202249883..comments2024-03-28T21:59:22.465-04:00Comments on Doux Reviews: The Originals: BloodlettingBillie Douxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17141769005175631213noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-78224689725565608202020-12-04T20:29:46.974-05:002020-12-04T20:29:46.974-05:00I'm trying to watch The Originals, which is my...I'm trying to watch The Originals, which is my version of a cry for help: I have truly run out of shows to watch.<br /><br />This episode was so, so hard to watch. As I have made clear in my TVD reviews, I have no affection for Tyler. But watching this episode, I started to think about how comfortable both TVD and TO are with framing male anger as an appropriate way of dealing with emotional trauma. Like, we're supposed to sort of see where Tyler is coming from? When he sticks a huge needle into a pregnant woman?<br /><br />The show seems to have the same issue with Klaus.<br /><br />Anyway: I should give credit where credit is due. Much of my resistance to The Originals is due to the fact that I watched Legacies (the spinoff of this spinoff) and it really fixes a lot of the problematic issues in TVD and TO. It's a bit performatively woke, but you can see how Plec and the Legacies powers that be are staying in conversation with the current moment. Josie Kafkanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-61018664600906896902014-08-03T01:00:13.595-04:002014-08-03T01:00:13.595-04:00I never really enjoyed Tyler when he was on VD, an...I never really enjoyed Tyler when he was on VD, and I couldn't stand him in this episode. Even though I knew he would survive, I was kinda hoping Klaus would just kill him and get it over with.<br /><br />Speaking of Klaus, we're back to the Klaus I absolutely despise and want to slap silly. He tortures, demeans and otherwise treats his family like crap, and is then somehow offended when they aren't slavishly loyal to him? *sigh* It's like they just went and undid the last 2 years of Klaus' character arc. :(Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03943327351499919454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-64697066662857445882013-12-07T09:52:26.050-05:002013-12-07T09:52:26.050-05:00I've never like Tyler either and I'm not r...I've never like Tyler either and I'm not really sure why, but I was glad that Klaus didn't kill him. I don't want Klaus to go back on his word to Caroline so easily although I don't think it would have been out of character if he had.<br /><br />Anniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08348075897600518734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-48705174949585972112013-11-15T09:35:55.360-05:002013-11-15T09:35:55.360-05:00Tyler is an idiot. He left a sweet deal where he ...Tyler is an idiot. He left a sweet deal where he could play house with Caroline to muck around in the swamp and hassle Klaus - somebody he probably can't kill at all, and certainly can't kill without (literally) dying himself? Stupid. I was kind of hoping Klaus would go ahead and pluck his heart and put Tyler (and us) out of his misery.TheShadowKnowshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11073693648569864707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-75683985355239303502013-11-14T19:29:42.995-05:002013-11-14T19:29:42.995-05:00Morgan, I loved the awkward dinner line. Phoebe To...Morgan, I loved the awkward dinner line. Phoebe Tonkin is always gorgeous, but I think she might be prettier in this show then anywhere else I've seen her. I totally agree that Tyler was the obvious first crossover character that made sense. I could also see Bonnie's vamp mother showing up to defend the witches later on too. My hope is that Kathrine will show up eventually, but that seems unlikely. Also, I bet the PTB are saving Caroline for further down the line. Her arrival should feel significant.<br /><br />Robyn, Although I don't really agree about VD, I think this season his been pretty good so far, I think you're totally right that this show deals with more shades of gray, and that the reason Klaus remains at all watchable is because he is so complex a character. Sure vampires are probably at the saturation point, but so are zombies and werewolves. This happens every ten years or so. Remember when Interview with the Vampire came out, there were so many vampire movies released that the backlash at the box office was pretty bad.<br /><br />Billie, you have a great point about how the Mikaelson family don't really react the way we would expect. Being as old as they are. Also I will totally cop to the fact that I dislike Tyler immensely, which is probably why I wasn't that fond of the drama this week. For a little while in VD season threeish, I kind of liked him. During the height of the Tyler/Caroline romance. After that, total asshat.Samantha M. Quinnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02340568293992559934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-4578907073606911342013-11-14T17:35:38.773-05:002013-11-14T17:35:38.773-05:00I still love VD, but I'm very much enjoying Th...I still love VD, but I'm very much enjoying <i>The Originals</i>, too. I'm an Elijah girl too, Robyn, and I agree that if they didn't have Klaus, there would be so little conflict. <br /><br />I think Elijah's interest in Hayley and his lack of jealousy that her baby is his brother's is an acknowledgement by the writers that these characters are *very* old and very strange and they just don't react to situations the way regular old humans do. (Loved what you said, Morgan, about "a really awkward family dinner". :) Their sibling relationship is so bizarre, anyway.<br /><br />Like you, J.D., I thought the scene where Elijah and Klaus walked right into an entire cadre of vampires and calmly threatened to kill them all was awesome.<br /><br />Can't stand Tyler. He's just the last VD character that I want crossing over. Although it might be worth it if it brings Caroline over, too.Billie Douxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17141769005175631213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-58320638334825237292013-11-14T17:26:29.279-05:002013-11-14T17:26:29.279-05:00All through this episode I was like....'gosh, ...All through this episode I was like....'gosh, I didn't like Tyler as a good guy, and I don't like home as a bad guy', there is just something indescribably unlikeable about the character. I completely understand his motives for revenge, but this all struck me as incredibly violent and almost insane this episode. I hope he is not going to become a regular...although this could be a good hook to bring in Caroline and I want to see her here (and with Klaus).<br />I really enjoy the Originals, I have stopped watching VD altogether as I begun to find the characters annoying and stereotypically one dimensional. The storylines became quite predicable as well. <br />I find the Originals 'fresh' on a saturated media market of vampires/witches/werewolves, maybe because the plots are more unpredictable, and the characters are definitely shades of grey. I am definitely an Elijah girl, but find Klaus just fascinating as a character to watch-he is so complex, damaged and conflicted.<br />I am enjoying the evolution of all the characters who have had such twisted lives---and love how the writers, directors, etc are demonstrating 1000 years is not necessarily a blessing if you cant have social and familial connections, humanity and, trust and love. I look forward to where this is gong.<br />By the way, I am wondering when Mummy dearest with show up....Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16503972610868651614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-92085870174739596392013-11-14T17:12:41.196-05:002013-11-14T17:12:41.196-05:00Klaus/Hayley/Elijah doesn't bother me as much ...Klaus/Hayley/Elijah doesn't bother me as much as it probably would when it comes to CW love triangles. I think it's partly to do with the fact that two parties have no romantic feelings for each other, they're just somewhat dysfunctional parents to be. So I guess it doesn't really make it a love triangle, just a really awkward family dinner.<br /><br />Tyler seems to be the most logical crossover character at this point in time. It would seem too early to bring in someone like Caroline or one of the main three. Yes, Tyler is a capital D-bag, but I did like how it brings in a fresh storyline while also connecting to the primary ones?<br /><br />Phoebe Tonkin looked gorgeous in this episode, especially considering she was being attacked and stabbed and running through the woods. Darn her.morgan indiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07633124041567701073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-54455296961915385112013-11-14T13:44:00.464-05:002013-11-14T13:44:00.464-05:00Well, okay I forgot about that detail. That only ...Well, okay I forgot about that detail. That only makes his actions even more petty. His revenge included Hayley. Concern, doesn't not equal homicide. <br /><br />Using and abusing her was not the actions of a good man defending his hybrid brothers. It was the actions of a revenge fueled asshat who clearly can't tell right from wrong anymore. Basically the witches did the same thing to Hayley and they were monsters. How is what Tyler did any different from that?Samantha M. Quinnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02340568293992559934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-78008624953013150212013-11-14T13:39:03.920-05:002013-11-14T13:39:03.920-05:00I will say that Haley setting up the massacre of t...I will say that Haley setting up the massacre of the free hybrids because she wanted to find out about her family kind of takes away my believing that she is a "friend" that Tyler owes anything to. She couldn't have known that Klaus would then kill Tyler's mother, but her betrayal of Tyler and his rebel hybrids did directly result in Carol's death. Plus, I truly believe that Tyler is concerned that Haley's baby will be used to make more hybrids and destroy the vampire race.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com