tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post2711322623299698235..comments2024-03-28T17:08:01.559-04:00Comments on Doux Reviews: Persons Unknown: SavedBillie Douxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17141769005175631213noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-71790484609407624432010-08-09T04:32:26.702-04:002010-08-09T04:32:26.702-04:00Matthew,
Thank you for your comments and the link...Matthew,<br /><br />Thank you for your comments and the link. In case anyone is wondering, that's a valid link to a great analysis of Scientology's role in this show. (And he's not trying to sell you Viagra as far as I can tell.)<br /><br />Your discussion of the episode raised many interesting point, nearly all of which I agree with (but failed to see on my own when I watched the episode). <br /><br />My one sticking point would be that your analysis is far better than the show itself. As you explain it, Joe has the ability to reach out to others, to "touch" them, before he's re-programmed. It makes sense, and I agree (now) that is what the writers are trying to get us to see. <br /><br />But I don't think they're doing it effectively. I don't feel a connection with Joe. I don't understand his connection with Janet. The show tells me it is there, but I don't see it happening organically, and that is what I'm struggling with. <br /><br />I know I've mentioned this line in a previous review, but I think it's worth mentioning again: Stephen Baldwin saying "It's raining in New York" as he mourns the friend (or lover) he's lost in LA (in The Usual Suspects). It's so poignant, so touching, and it says everything that needs to be said about all that is left unsaid about their relationship. It makes his inability or refusal to mourn publicly into a tragedy. It tells us what has truly been lost--and therefore what was at stake--in the story so far. <br /><br />I'm not getting that subtle glimmer of a dirt-encrusted gem from this show. It's all strobe lights and Astroturf.Josie Kafkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17892717530356699008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-38183981642862629142010-08-09T03:57:51.752-04:002010-08-09T03:57:51.752-04:00Josie:
I've posted a few more thoughts on the...Josie:<br /><br />I've posted a few more thoughts on the Scientology connection at personspeople.com <br /><br />In short: It's impossible for me to believe that "The Program" isn't inspired by the House that L. Ron built — but I don't think you have to worry that this is a show about Scientology. There's plenty more going on. <br /><br />- matthew <br />personspeople.com••• ••• •••https://www.blogger.com/profile/14600386769844878535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-11194198450158063162010-08-03T00:54:12.405-04:002010-08-03T00:54:12.405-04:00Josie, I'm glad you understood the episode and...Josie, I'm glad you understood the episode and explained it because they really lost me. The only thing I got out of it was that they were retconning Joe -- making him a priest sort of shifts the balance from betrayer of the group back to a probable good guy again.<br /><br />What's funny is the Google Ad here on the blog just started advertising Scientology. :) It's enough to make you suspect that you're being watched.Billie Douxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17141769005175631213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-13565396126002420262010-08-01T19:08:09.900-04:002010-08-01T19:08:09.900-04:00Keep it civil, dear readers. Otherwise I'll fe...Keep it civil, dear readers. Otherwise I'll feed you to my thetans.<br /><br />(That's supposed to be a Scientology joke, but I don't think I've gotten it right.)Josie Kafkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17892717530356699008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-76289709824159245792010-08-01T19:04:58.597-04:002010-08-01T19:04:58.597-04:00Dude calm down, it's a TV show.
I know that L...Dude calm down, it's a TV show. <br />I know that LRH took it from the poem by Robert Frost. Anyone with Google can read that too. <br />Take a breath. If you will read my post again you can see that I said that I had a laugh putting it into the scientology context - not that I was claiming that was what the show was about. I am sure you are putting way more thought into it that even the writers. It's a summer fill TV show. Try and relax a bit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-84529634758538793272010-08-01T14:57:32.228-04:002010-08-01T14:57:32.228-04:00I assure you it is NOT about Scientology, or relig...I assure you it is NOT about Scientology, or religion, or philosophy -- it's about humans and how they have pre-conceived notions about choices they make and consequences of those choices, and how complacently we allow ourselves to be manipulated into making choices. That is one reason for using religious aspects of the show, and why symbolism (like the number 7) is used. The two stories in this episode juxtapose impressions of insanity and yes, for that reason some things are a little on the nose. But "the program" knows this, and uses iconic stereotypes because we remember them better. And the quote IS from Robert Frost, not Hubbard.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12166750088640303806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-78945593686539807452010-08-01T14:26:37.897-04:002010-08-01T14:26:37.897-04:00I just watched the "Saved" episode and c...I just watched the "Saved" episode and couldn't shake that it seemed to be using really hokey religious imagry and themes including the bright white light, number 7, people who were dead retuning, nuns, priests, omnipotent all seeing beings, and silly dialogue such as "Go to hell" "There is no freewill, we have proved it" "you are saved" "you must submit" "this is where I was reborn" "you must pay for the sins of your father" and the guy everyone hates getting on his knees to talk to the ceiling camera. I also thought that it also was alluding to aliens with the whole white room mind eraser probe,etc. I thought the writers were just trying to invoke the audience to start to get into discussing all of their own wild theories and debate a la Lost community. <br />It was bugging me so I typed in "The way out is the way through" and of course saw that it is usually attributed to L Ron Hubbard. Really????<br /> <br />Now I can't get it out of my head and really can't stop laughing about how funny the show is when you put it into the context of that wack job "religion". You can never leave! All the people are "super special" The mental institutions are evil! Bring on the e-meters baby, Xenu is a comin! HA!Stanhopehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15195333428020962860noreply@blogger.com