tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post4061279520698717538..comments2024-03-28T23:03:57.917-04:00Comments on Doux Reviews: The Walking Dead: TryBillie Douxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17141769005175631213noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-48132605370379617142018-03-05T13:23:16.069-05:002018-03-05T13:23:16.069-05:00Carl is 10 and Enid is clearly 16 urrgggg ...Timel...Carl is 10 and Enid is clearly 16 urrgggg ...Timeline haha<br /><br /><br />Giantdaz72https://www.blogger.com/profile/16014712408859404276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-69870953350707414282015-03-30T00:30:58.626-04:002015-03-30T00:30:58.626-04:00Kate:
"I was annoyed at Deanna for saying how...Kate:<br />"I was annoyed at Deanna for saying how civilized their society was yet she knows about Pete hitting his family. I get that he's a Doctor, but he's also drunk 24/7 so I don't know that I'd want him operating on me."<br /><br />I completely agree! I can see why Deanna might not want to exile Pete (or as he's come to be known as Porch D*ck) even though I disagree with her, but it shouldn't be hard to cut off his alcohol supply. Come to think of it having a completely dry community sounds like a safe idea in general under the circumstances.Mariannahttp://www.mariannahorn.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-86630712062837949352015-03-30T00:03:55.129-04:002015-03-30T00:03:55.129-04:00Doc:
I really love the way your write. I.E. Noah&#...Doc:<br />I really love the way your write. I.E. <i>Noah's death has put a shadow over the illusion of safety Alexandria provides and Pete beating Jessie has shown that civilization comes at a cost.</i> You captured in one sentence what I think are the episode's strong points of tension, thematically.<br /> <br />What I liked about 'Try': Carl and Enid. This just rings as so authentic, and the flavor of it is different than anything TWD has done before, imo. Aaron and Darryl, I could watch them wandering around the forest forever. Finally, did you notice Sam hiding behind Carol during the last scene? Visually that struck me as really smart and interesting.<br /><br />What I didn't like: Everything about Rick and Jessie including but not limited to Pete and Deanna. Although on a second watch, I had a different take on why Rick claimed he wouldn't help anyone else with this situation. I think his dialogue was a lot more sinister than it first came across because it could also be interpreted as a manipulation. I think he said that to Jessie so she would agree to let him help.<br />I don't know if there are a half a dozen scenes on the editing room floor where Rick and Jessie have cultivated real feelings for each other but it just feels so off and Rick comes off as super-unstable, weird and borderline pathetic. Speaking of pathetic, I loathe Pete and not for any of the reasons the writers are going for. He's a mealy, insignificant, unthreatening d-bag who Rick (or Jessie or Deanna for that matter!) should easy be able to take down, I mean without even cracking a sweat. There's no menace there at all for me. Finally, when the show keeps hitting the same note, I want to throw things. (And this is a transgression TWD is perhaps, above all else, most often guilty of, imo.) Therefore, I am not into Sasha's meltdown at all.<br />All that said, I'm looking forward to the finale!<br /> Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13953652907115935895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-11066984434819287932015-03-24T17:10:33.657-04:002015-03-24T17:10:33.657-04:00Really liked this episode. great review. It was ve...Really liked this episode. great review. It was very tough to watch Rick gradually become more and more unhinged and the fight scene was pretty brutal. Pete had it coming thou and Rick's right about the people of Alexandria, he just picked a really bad time to yell at them about it. I was annoyed at Deanna for saying how civilized their society was yet she knows about Pete hitting his family. I get that he's a Doctor, but he's also drunk 24/7 so I don't know that I'd want him operating on me. I also want to take back a comment a made a few weeks ago about Enid. After she snuck out of Alexandria a few weeks back I was speculating that she might have ties to an outside group. I'm backing off of that now. She seems more like just another damaged kid and less like someone spying on the group for someone else. Katenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-25154211330958887452015-03-24T13:14:10.148-04:002015-03-24T13:14:10.148-04:00Thanks Marianna, I've fixed it. She looks lik...Thanks Marianna, I've fixed it. She looks like an Erin to me :)drnanamomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03667806039402426676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-81534826070016766632015-03-24T10:10:33.523-04:002015-03-24T10:10:33.523-04:00Yvette Nicole Brown made an interesting point on T...Yvette Nicole Brown made an interesting point on Talking Dead that Rick's obsession with Jessie is at least partly because she has qualities similar to Lori, which may be contributing to his craziness that is getting closer to his level of craziness after Lori's death. Basically all of our people have PTSD. Some of them are at least aware of it and seem to be dealing with it in a healthy way (Glen, Rosita, etc.). Some are on the verge of or already have completely lost it (Rick, Sasha, etc.)<br /><br />By the way, Carl's new love interest is named Enid, not Erin. =)Mariannahttp://www.mariannahorn.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-57471960392027965852015-03-24T09:22:10.574-04:002015-03-24T09:22:10.574-04:00I haven’t been a Rick and Michonne shipper because...I haven’t been a Rick and Michonne shipper because of my whole “why can’t men and women just be friends and partners” issue, but I’m starting to wish he’d get together with her, too. I’d much prefer to see him with an equal partner who actually gets what he’s been through, rather than this “damsel in distress.” Ugh. I get that being in the kind of place he and Lori used to dream about for their family and seeing Jessie as a pretty suburban mom figure (holding his baby, no less) triggered this attraction to her, but it seems like it is coming from a very unhealthy place. It’s not really about her or who she is; it is all about longing for the past that he lost. Michonne is the present and could be the future. She’s just a much better partner for him, any way you slice it.<br /><br />I kind of like that they put the doctor vs. abuser issue on the table. It's an interesting moral quandry that parallels some of the "do some lives have less value" issues floating to the surface in our current reviews of <i>The Wire</i>. I don't think either Rick or Deanna handled the situation in the best way. She's too soft, and he's maybe too hard. Middle ground, people. Try for the middle ground.Jess Lyndehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14165015932507376656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-67847026867885491192015-03-24T09:19:07.551-04:002015-03-24T09:19:07.551-04:00@Billie - this pissed me off as well but I thought...@Billie - this pissed me off as well but I thought, that is what we do now and we don't have an apocalypse to deal with. The number of times I have seen people think - "oh it will get better just give it time"...drnanamomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03667806039402426676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-88416777214522014752015-03-24T09:17:23.900-04:002015-03-24T09:17:23.900-04:00I felt bad for Rick too Billie. He really did try...I felt bad for Rick too Billie. He really did try to keep it together but he is still too messed up and Pete did attack him. I thought what he said also made sense but where and when he was saying it didn't work. Michonne taking Rick out was awesome and I meant to mention it. Theres just always so many things to say! I think next week is going to be awful as you predict because that is just The Walking Dead but I hope that many in Alexandria survive to move on to the next season and I hope some of the town continues to stand. I would really like to see Rick come out the other side like Michonne. And I also agree that they would be great together. @Henrik I can see where you are coming from about the Janeway/Chakotay think although I think Janeway had a better idea of the shit they were dealing with and was a more decisive leader. I hope Deanna gets there because I like her.drnanamomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03667806039402426676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-60338219131678515522015-03-24T09:09:21.944-04:002015-03-24T09:09:21.944-04:00One more! I was completely furious with Deanna whe...One more! I was completely furious with Deanna when she admitted that she let the situation with Pete and Jessie go on because Pete is a doctor. I get the importance of having a doctor in the community, but I hate the idea that someone else's life must be devalued because of it.Billie Douxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17141769005175631213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-9751600378913440752015-03-24T09:04:07.408-04:002015-03-24T09:04:07.408-04:00I came away from this one feeling bad for Rick. He...I came away from this one feeling bad for Rick. He made an absolute fool of himself because he felt compelled to act, but he couldn't make anything happen because Deanna made him a figurehead with no authority. Actually, I do think Rick would have acted to save someone else who was being beaten, since I'm certain he used to do that in his pre-apocalypse job. (Although he probably wouldn't have rushed in the way he did here.)<br /><br />I did love the way the women went out to help Sasha, who is in such a bad way. And that Michonne was the one to take Rick down. I personally think Rick and Michonne are perfect for each other. Forget Jessie. :)<br /><br />Maybe Carol is the one who'll take out Pete after all. That is, if Alexandria isn't completely destroyed next week in the finale. Bad things happen in TWD finales. Billie Douxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17141769005175631213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-36379877687559373472015-03-24T08:15:14.554-04:002015-03-24T08:15:14.554-04:00Great review of a tense episode!
Is anybody else g...Great review of a tense episode!<br />Is anybody else getting a really big Janeway/Chakotay-vibe from Deanna and Rick?Henrik Bennetterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18446577900313568158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-32150861248480907892015-03-24T06:58:04.082-04:002015-03-24T06:58:04.082-04:00Much agreement this week, Doc. Obviously, after la...Much agreement this week, Doc. Obviously, after last week’s discussion, I was less than thrilled with most of the Rick and Jessie developments. And his admission that he wouldn’t “do this” for just anyone only cemented for me how messed up the whole situation is. (Because why <i>wouldn’t</i> he try to protect someone else from an abuser? He’d be fine letting the abusive doctor live if he didn’t want the guy’s wife for himself? WTF?) At least the show seems to recognize that it <i>is</i> messed up and that Rick’s become a bit unhinged over a woman he barely knows. <br /><br />Of course, despite coming across like a dangerous lunatic in the street at the end, Rick still made some very valid points about the community needing to see the world as it is and being better prepared to fight. As you say, Doc, both Deanna and Rick have valid perspectives to an extent. Trying to rebuild civilization is a worthy goal, but Deanna needs to accept that it can’t be just like it was. At the same time, her desire to cling to the past --- especially given that things have been mostly okay for them so far --- doesn’t make it right for Rick to stage a coup and tear apart a somewhat decent foundation either. He needs to let go of some of the feral aggression and try harder to make them understand what they need to change, without going the “blood-soaked, gun-waving rant in the street” route. Both leaders need to give a little, follow Glenn’s example, and start working together, before it all falls apart for everyone. I’m guessing the impending external threat is about to force the issue.<br /><br />Interesting tidbit on the titles, that I learned about thanks to a comment at the AV Club --- Apparently, all titles since we got to Alexandria call back to Dale’s speech around the campfire in S1, E4 (referencing William Faulkner), about why he bothers to keep time (a mark of civilization) even though the world has ended:<br /><br /><i>"I like what the father said to the son when he gave him a watch that had been handed down through generations. He said: ‘I give you a mausoleum of all hope and desire, which will fit your individual needs no better than it did mine and my father’s before me. I give it to you not that you may remember time, but that you may forget it. For a moment, now and then, and not spend all of your breath trying to conquer it.’”</i><br /><br />So that explains last week’s title! I love that they are bringing in these echoes of Dale and Shane this half season. It’s a nice way to highlight how much everyone has changed, in ways both good and bad. And it is fitting, given that the basic difference in their worldviews is the same one Deanna and Rick are wrestling with now. Of course, things didn’t work out too well for either Dale or Shane, so hopefully their current “incarnations” can find some common middle ground.Jess Lyndehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14165015932507376656noreply@blogger.com