tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post4406653909168517346..comments2024-03-28T23:03:57.917-04:00Comments on Doux Reviews: Star Trek Deep Space Nine: Emissary, Parts 1 & 2Billie Douxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17141769005175631213noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-70374982717430759472018-05-20T15:39:28.823-04:002018-05-20T15:39:28.823-04:00Also, I kept hearing Kardashian as opposed to Card...Also, I kept hearing Kardashian as opposed to Cardassion or whatever they’re called. Which is... fun?An Honest Fangirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15093676731627861429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-72223249643223399132018-05-20T15:38:36.453-04:002018-05-20T15:38:36.453-04:00Alright, time for a massive binge. (Afterwhich I’l...Alright, time for a massive binge. (Afterwhich I’ll get back to Legends, I swear.) <br /><br />I thought that this episode was just okay, but that it was a very strong pilot, if that makes sense. It did it’s job well, which was to establish characters, the world, and the situation. I think my favorite characters so far are Dax, Kira, and O’Brien. My least favorites are definitely Jake and Quark. <br /><br />While Sisko’s conversation with the aliens was cool, it just dragged on for SO LONG. If they said “What is that?” one more time I was going to hurl my phone at the tv. <br /><br />It just didn’t necessarily feel like Star Trek to me. I usually like darker and gritter shows, but Trek has always been about hope and optimism for me. I don’t know. We shall see. An Honest Fangirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15093676731627861429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-45664171355870080562017-09-09T21:06:06.436-04:002017-09-09T21:06:06.436-04:00I wasn't watching much TV at the time DS9 was ...I wasn't watching much TV at the time DS9 was on, so I only saw a few episodes. But I always found it more intriguing than the other Star Trek series because the station and the people on it felt more connected to the world around them, and politics and moral decisions felt more real to me.<br />So even though my recollection was it was not the best received of the Star Trek shows by the fanbase at the time, when I saw there was love for it here, I thought I'd give it a whirl.<br /><br />What worked for me in the pilot was mostly the character introductions and their development. We learn a lot about the characters very efficiently, and it was interesting seeing an outside view of the Federation. Kira's withering response to Julian's enthusiasm for the primitive frontier delighted me. <br /><br />The actual plot...well, I found the mystical temple/emissary of the prophets stuff a bit hokey and the dated special effects didn't help. Still, the pilot did a great job of positioning DS9 as a very different sort of star trek. Cisco looks to be caught in a much more difficult diplomatic situation than Kirk or Picard usually faced, and there's a lot of potential for him to come into conflict with both his underlings and his superiors. As JRS notes, the prickly scene with Picard is excellent.magrittenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-80746876467941483162014-06-22T12:31:19.782-04:002014-06-22T12:31:19.782-04:00I don't feel like DS9 needed an eighth season....I don't feel like DS9 needed an eighth season. In fact, of all the Trek shows, it felt the most like one complete story, rather than an anthology of short stories. The starship-based Trek series feel in many ways like another version of The Twilight Zone or The Outer Limits, only with a consistent cast of characters to hang the various stories on. They really could've ended at any time. DS9 actually got what felt like a proper conclusion. Sure they could have continued telling stories in that world, and there are multiple novels that do just that, but the series does provide quite a bit of closure. That's quite rare on television.<br /><br />Hopefully I was able to respond without spoiling anything :)Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03943327351499919454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-47221998793008654522014-06-21T19:05:23.553-04:002014-06-21T19:05:23.553-04:00@Anon: Lost needed another season. Angel needed ...@Anon: Lost needed another season. Angel needed another season (or two). 24 needed another (and thankfully got one)... As much as I would've loved more DS9, I think everything was wrapped beautifully; in fact, I'm hard-pressed to think of a more satisfying series finale.<br /><br />Besides, as I've already mentioned, the series did continue in novel form (any of which would, admittedly, be great to see on screen).WADEZILLA13noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-2942531165444200442014-06-21T18:36:55.512-04:002014-06-21T18:36:55.512-04:00Here's another yay for finally seeing DS9 revi...Here's another yay for finally seeing DS9 reviews. Keep going!<br /><br />DS9 is by far the best of the trek series. Pity they didn't give them the eighth season they deserved to close everything properly :(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-24348610179631148302014-06-21T08:16:20.583-04:002014-06-21T08:16:20.583-04:00Loving all the comments, it's helping give me ...Loving all the comments, it's helping give me some texture for the show - and stuff to look forward to! Stay tuned for more reviews soon... JRShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02485752215710916988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-59439112738274828322014-06-21T00:59:39.322-04:002014-06-21T00:59:39.322-04:00My favorite TV show... glad to see it getting cove...My favorite TV show... glad to see it getting covered! Will be neat to read along...<br /><br />Try not to know stuff from later before you reach it. There is good stuff. EG, you mention Dukat as the big bad villain... don't assume that until you see how he actually evolves... they go some very interesting places with him...<br /><br />Best part of the show though, compared to a lot of shows nowadays. There are no 'made up' redemption arcs. Either a character earns it, or there is no redemption for them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-24019176393736630252014-06-20T17:59:51.026-04:002014-06-20T17:59:51.026-04:00Very excited to see DS9 being reviewed here! It...Very excited to see DS9 being reviewed here! It's my absolute favorite Trek show by miles, and one of my all-time favorite shows of any kind. I don't want to spoil any of the big storylines for those who haven't watched it yet, but I loved the overall concept of a stationary setting & cast of characters, who couldn't just fly off into the sunset after each crisis. They have to stay and live with the consequences of their decisions, whether they involve the station, the planet, or the whole sector.<br /><br />The pilot itself was quite good, possibly the best of the Trek pilots, at least the modern ones. I never watched the original series, sue me. We got a good introduction to each of the characters, to the political situation involving Bajor, Cardassia & the Federation, and of course they introduced the Wormhole and the mysteries contained therein. This show had a harder job than the other Trek series when it came to the pilot. Being stationary instead of wandering the galaxy meant they had to spend more time establishing the world around the station.<br /><br />Sisko's entire conversation with the "Prophets" about the linear nature of existence, using baseball as a metaphor to describe it(a personal favorite of mine, being a big fan of baseball), and how they show him that he's essentially living in his own past by not letting himself move on after losing his wife was excellent. It tackled big ideas, but at the same time was very personal. <br /><br />Probably the most amusing scene of the pilot was Sisko & Quark negotiating Nog's release in Odo's office. I loved watching Sisko manipulate Quark, but it was Odo's line at the end that really clinched it, "You know at first, I didn't think I was going to like him." :)<br /><br />I hope visitors to this site who haven't watched Deep Space Nine before give it a chance, it really is a great show.Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03943327351499919454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-47658003912880683802014-06-20T17:23:29.195-04:002014-06-20T17:23:29.195-04:00Great to finally some DS9 reviews; it was getting ...Great to finally some DS9 reviews; it was getting to the point where I was going to volunteer to write them myself! Seriously, while the first season can be a grind at times, this show evolves into what I feel is the finest iteration of Star Trek bar none. The depth of storytelling and character on display here is so rich that secondary and even tertiary characters seem more fleshed-out and vibrant than major players on other Trek series (for example, Elim Garak could be the most interesting character Star Trek has ever produced). Much of this awesome as can be attributed to the space station setting, which allowed for more consistency than jetting to a new planet each week on a starship. It's also due to the fact that the writers took time to build story arcs, using the show's entire seven year run to construct an amazing - and at times grim - saga that culminated in a brutal war on a scale never before seen on Star Trek. If it isn't clear yet, I LOVE THIS SHOW. (Side note: the continuation of the DS9 story in book form is equally awesome, if you haven't read those yet)WADEZILLA13noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-59688231570436545302014-06-20T15:34:14.069-04:002014-06-20T15:34:14.069-04:00You know, Mark, the ONLY thing I could think of af...You know, Mark, the ONLY thing I could think of after that was a scene with Sisko and Jake watching an old episode of Honey Honey Boo Boo, turning to each other, and saying simultaneously how much better clothes are in the 24th century.<br /><br />But yeah, you'd think they could do better than "let's drape elastic over our bodies!"JRShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02485752215710916988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-51222658654187911152014-06-20T12:37:03.586-04:002014-06-20T12:37:03.586-04:00I'm so happy that you're going to be revie...I'm so happy that you're going to be reviewing DS9 for us, JRS. It is my favourite Trek series and one of my all time favourite shows. I re-watched the first to seasons last year and was surprised to see how well it held up. Well, the storytelling and the FX did. The fashions? Not so much. Why does everyone in the 24th century have such terrible tastes in clothes? Mark Greighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12984193299389764649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-76510202543200235692014-06-20T10:17:43.763-04:002014-06-20T10:17:43.763-04:00If you're watching DS9 for the first time, sti...If you're watching DS9 for the first time, stick with it! The first episode is awesome, but I feel the show does't reach this level of awesome until later on. The show didn't click for me until season 3, but then it's great. I just started season 5 of DS9 in my "watch every episode of Star Trek ever" adventure. Looking forward to future DS9 reviews!Brettskynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-49441456093212484322014-06-20T09:46:41.652-04:002014-06-20T09:46:41.652-04:00Congratulations on your first post, JRS, and yay f...Congratulations on your first post, JRS, and yay for <i>Deep Space Nine</i> reviews on our site!Billie Douxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17141769005175631213noreply@blogger.com