tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post5470726319695076113..comments2024-03-28T17:08:01.559-04:00Comments on Doux Reviews: The Walking Dead: The GroveBillie Douxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17141769005175631213noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-36042531758974513602015-07-17T13:53:40.238-04:002015-07-17T13:53:40.238-04:00I thought one of them had Judith in a backpack or ...I thought one of them had Judith in a backpack or a frontpack. Billie Douxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17141769005175631213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-75523656011436119162015-07-17T13:51:08.602-04:002015-07-17T13:51:08.602-04:00Wow, Carol. Just wow. Major kudos to Melissa McBri...Wow, Carol. Just wow. Major kudos to Melissa McBride. She killed it, no pun intended.<br /><br />I was mildly bored at some parts of the episode, but those last ten/fifteen minutes were very powerful television. They didn’t back away. They had Carol kill a young girl! I think this is the darkest scenario the show has come up with so far.<br /><br />This story was just another examination of how these characters don’t have the “luxuries” we have when we live in a functional society. I mean, what would we do with a psycho kid? Try and help them become a healthy adult. Carol and Tyreese can’t do that, though, so Carol has to put Lizzie down, no matter how much that costs her.<br /><br />Sad to see Mica go. For a moment, I thought Carol would let zombie Mica live and lock her up with Lizzie or something.<br /><br />Did the director just forget to have Judith with Carol and Tyreese on the final shot? That was somewhat disturbing.Lamounierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00225447169375363236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-28276239319243272362015-02-26T15:37:41.624-05:002015-02-26T15:37:41.624-05:00The "dismal" and "gut-wrenching&quo...The "dismal" and "gut-wrenching" aspects are definitely a deal breaker for a lot of folks, Elfie. I constantly wrestle with the "why do I watch this show?!" question. I guess some of us find enough glimmers of hope to keep hanging in there, or find the group's ability to keep going through all the misery hopeful in itself. And some of us are gluttons for punishment. It can certainly be damn depressing. And that seems pretty baked into the show's DNA, so I doubt it will ever change. Characters we've grown to like are always going to die and the ones left behind will struggle. You'll have to figure out where the "I like these characters, but I just can't watch them suffer anymore" line falls for you. <br /><br />Strangely, I haven't reached that point yet. I've been wondering how long I'd be able to take the misery since mid-Season 3, and I fully expected to hit the wall long before now, but I just haven't yet. There's always something around the edges of the death and misery that keeps me not just hanging in with the show, but eagerly anticipating it. My husband thinks I'm a nutter. :)Jess Lyndehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14165015932507376656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-55463948948403787122015-02-26T13:44:32.059-05:002015-02-26T13:44:32.059-05:00Gosh this episode was so, so bleak. It was intelli...Gosh this episode was so, so bleak. It was intelligent and it hit really hard, and I know it's necessary but it is another episode that makes me wonder WHY AGAIN DO I WATCH THIS SHOW? All the good people die, the babies die, the little kids die, the old men die, everyone whose ever left an impact on the audience ever -- dies. I've also been spoiled about a certain character death (I won't mention who, I know how you guys are about spoilers.) but it just drives home the fact that this show is awfully depressing. Someone explain to me, what exactly the writers are trying to achieve here? I mean... What is the message? Reality sucks? We know that already! Don't get me wrong, I love realistic portrayed television but it's TELEVISION for a reason, can we please have something at least a tinge less dismal? I don't know, you guys. I'm just sick and tired of this gut-wrenching stuff.<br /><br />Mica was such a good, brave girl. She would grow to be someone kickass and level-headed as you mentioned. Sad to see her go. Lizzie was obviously too far gone. What pained me the most, however, was how Carol and Tyreese were on a random stroll outside. Once again, I must suspend disbelief to believe that these two mature adults would leave these two fragile little girls alone with the freaking baby!? It makes no sense. Maybe I'm nitpicking, but it irks me no less.<br /><br />Also, Anon, you aren't the only one who thought they were leaving without Judith. I didn't see the baby either.Elfienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-59524058807716132222014-04-16T17:24:37.359-04:002014-04-16T17:24:37.359-04:00Just watched this.. in the last scene, anyone else...Just watched this.. in the last scene, anyone else felt like they were leaving without Judith??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-22510745052786371092014-03-25T22:26:32.601-04:002014-03-25T22:26:32.601-04:00It is interesting that even as I was writing this ...It is interesting that even as I was writing this week's review I kept remembering that scene from last week. @Scott I shuddered as well and kept hoping that Mica would tell someone about the things her sister was doing. drnanamomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03667806039402426676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-3861197803768944682014-03-21T11:10:20.955-04:002014-03-21T11:10:20.955-04:00After Lizzie's freak out over her "friend...After Lizzie's freak out over her "friend," she said she knew what she had to do now. Did anyone else shudder? Carol and Tyreese both heard "I understand I have to avoid walkers now" but she clearly meant "I have to prove that walkers are our friends."<br /><br />I really expected that she would kill herself to prove her point, so I was shocked when it became clear what she actually did.Scott Rigganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01711526444461565186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-76964152382401789672014-03-19T00:08:44.291-04:002014-03-19T00:08:44.291-04:00I too am glad I read the graphic novels ahead of t...I too am glad I read the graphic novels ahead of time but it still shocked me. I think I've underestimated Melissa McBride because she was absolutely outstanding in the episode with the weight she carried. After everything she's been through, I almost thought it would be a mercy killing if Tyrese had killed her. <br /><br />On a lighter note, my friend watched Of Mice and Men earlier in the day. At the end of the Walking Dead, she exclaimed, "They Lenny'd Lizzie."topher darlinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03975242320282969525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-89653401054594134992014-03-18T21:26:06.874-04:002014-03-18T21:26:06.874-04:00Freeman, I'm with you on the "not mention...Freeman, I'm with you on the "not mentioning his sister" thing --- the same thing bugged me with Maggie last week --- but in fairness to Tyreese, he and Karen first met at least 6 months ago (back at Woodbury), and could have been coupled up through a decent chunk of that season gap. He clearly had deep feelings for her. I know it doesn't seem like it, but her death was only 1 to 1.5 weeks ago for him (roughly). It makes sense that he'd still be deep in mourning and having nightmares. Especially with how he found her and with so many questions regarding what happened to her. I'm hopeful he can start healing now and focusing forward, taking Carol's example to heart.<br /><br />(These timeline issues really muck up the impact of the overall storytelling sometimes. If the audience can't keep track of or internalize how much time has passed, it can make it really hard to buy in and respond to the emotional space the characters would naturally be in. It's fascinating and frustrating.)Jess Lyndehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14165015932507376656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-61739506397171153122014-03-18T21:02:17.829-04:002014-03-18T21:02:17.829-04:00I liked the "point" of this episode. Ove...I liked the "point" of this episode. Over and over again I see other people complaining about how there's been so little action recently but really all these recent apisodes have been my jam. Real dark, real depressing, real real.<br /><br />Probably my least favorite thing about the episode was the fact that Tyreese was in it. He just hasn't clicked with me yet. All of the new characters have, just not him. And it kinda bugs me that he goes on and on about Karen, whom he met like what, a month ago, and he hasn't even mentioned his sister's potential fate? His sister spent the whole time worrying about him but I don't think he's mentioned her once. You wouldn't even think they're related. I guess it would be rather redundant storytelling-wise but at least let him say anything about her.<br /><br />Then again, I feel this episode resolved the "Tyreese angst" rather well. Maybe now he'll have more to do in the series. This episode showed Tyreese's potential leadership skills on display at least. He was able to put aside his feelings for the bigger picture.Freemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11265555641080269765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-91321363262099396862014-03-18T20:10:01.583-04:002014-03-18T20:10:01.583-04:00I’ve been looking forward to your take on this one...I’ve been looking forward to your take on this one, Doc. Based on some of your past reviews, I could see you being really put off by the direction things went, so I was curious to see which way you’d fall. Great review, as always.<br /><br />I thought this was a fantastic and incredibly difficult episode. It hit me hard enough that I had to watch <i>The Talking Dead</i> afterward to decompress a little bit. The funny thing is that I’ve been expecting something horrible like this to transpire with those girls all season, and yet was still entirely unprepared when it did. <br /><br />So many kudos to Melissa McBride. She’s always been very good, but she was really, really excellent this week. Carol’s pain and regret was pretty much the entire reason I found this episode so affecting. That, and Tyreese’s reaction to her confession. For the practical reasons you noted, I didn’t expect him to kill her after learning the truth, but his offer of forgiveness was a lovely and unexpected moment of grace. Something positive that came from all the horror and tragedy, and a really wonderful moment for both characters. Now they can move forward together with mutual understanding. “It’s ugly and it’s scary and it does change you. But that’s how we get to be here.” Great stuff.<br /><br />Surprisingly, I was rather sad to see Mika go, too. She managed to grow on me in this episode, and I felt rather gut-punched to see her lying there dead. The death of another sweet, hopeful girl makes me wonder even more about what awful fate Beth has met or may be enduring. The hopeful ones always seem to get smacked down or killed.<br /><br />I felt really awful for the baby playing Judith in that front yard scene where Mika kills the walker. That whole scenario must have been really confusing and incredibly stressful for that poor little one. (Side note: I think they changed babies on us. This Judith doesn’t quite look like the same kid who was banging cups together back in 4.2.)Jess Lyndehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14165015932507376656noreply@blogger.com