tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post5793526280288803147..comments2024-03-28T23:03:57.917-04:00Comments on Doux Reviews: Person of Interest: AletheiaBillie Douxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17141769005175631213noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-71281899135388160702023-02-22T03:31:15.765-05:002023-02-22T03:31:15.765-05:00So Reese refers to it as a "he." Neat. A...So Reese refers to it as a "he." Neat. Also I haven't found Root annoying since she's been in captivity and became oddly sympathetic (by which I mean, her feeling sympathy/pity). The vaguely annoying superiority is still there so it's not jarring but it's definitely eased up for me. <br />@Anonymous: " Also, When the Machine said it wants to save them, and Control ask who from, I think what the Machine told Root was "From yourselves" "<br />That is so godDAMN cheesy (no offence!) and I too expected that and was bracing myself and was relieved she just never says it. Thank goodness.<br /><br />Now, I guess it's still possible that The Machine can be killed off somehow, but as it stands I'm mostly relieved that this new potentially bad AI didn't just replace it which is what I feared. And still should, I guess. I can't really comprehend what this means for the battlefield now, whether it just neutralizes the advantages The Machine could lend the team or if it can actually lend the same advantages to the bad guys, which is kind of heart-breaking. I generally get sad about bad guys getting the same perks as a game-changer, I don't know why lol. I would rather just have the good guys nerfed. Weird possessiveness there. Onigirlihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10070327483035350298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-49237711454657182932018-06-17T06:31:00.553-04:002018-06-17T06:31:00.553-04:00Also, When the Machine said it wants to save them,...Also, When the Machine said it wants to save them, and Control ask who from, I think what the Machine told Root was "From yourselves"<br /><br />EPICAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-60370549557920239732018-06-17T06:26:43.890-04:002018-06-17T06:26:43.890-04:00One point that the review seemed to skip over. Ree...One point that the review seemed to skip over. Reese, in the final conversation with Harold, said that he does not want to work with the machine anymore. More than anything, Reese is upset that the entity he was working for and protecting, did not care enough to protect the ones he cares about. <br /><br />Finch frequently says that the machine understands human behavior and relationships. So he is definitely capable of understanding how much the people around Reese help tether him to reality and his duty. So why did it not keep an extra eye on the things it's assets care about? <br /><br />Reese : "I lost a friend because of your machine. We trust it blindly, but I'm not so sure it cares who matters and who doesn't."<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-24090976357642856532014-01-16T06:09:27.338-05:002014-01-16T06:09:27.338-05:00For the first time, Root did not annoy me to the p...For the first time, Root did not annoy me to the point of wanting her character to just go away. I loved the way she took control of Control.<br /><br />Fascinating exchange, Josie and Freeman. I had not really thought of the religious overtones, but after reading your comments, I certainly now believe they are there.ChrisBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10843864158239536750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-56946697975788038172014-01-15T02:04:53.183-05:002014-01-15T02:04:53.183-05:00Patrick - Reese has ALWAYS reminded me of Angel. S...Patrick - Reese has ALWAYS reminded me of Angel. Some of his lines are almost verbatim quotes from Angel. There was one I remember specifically where he says he loses patience when he gets shot. Angel said "I really don't like it when people shoot me" in Expecting. Anyway, clearly you're psychic. This week's episode was DEFINITELY the PoI version of "Epiphany." ABSOLUTELY. AHHH!sunbunnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08553429350476841139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-87497354688029048122014-01-11T21:48:12.146-05:002014-01-11T21:48:12.146-05:00My faith in Nolan rivals Root's faith in the M...My faith in Nolan rivals Root's faith in the Machine, so I assume Nolan has a five-year plan and an exit strategy.Josie Kafkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17892717530356699008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-25329050974680265362014-01-11T21:34:31.265-05:002014-01-11T21:34:31.265-05:00Interesting read. Though it does make me sorta lon...Interesting read. Though it does make me sorta long for the simpler times of this show. I keep getting nervous that POI is gonna pull a Dead Zone.Freemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11265555641080269765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-12567891923368118322014-01-11T21:18:31.057-05:002014-01-11T21:18:31.057-05:00Here's an excellent interview with Nolan: http...Here's an excellent interview with Nolan: http://io9.com/person-of-interests-producers-tell-us-what-the-machine-1498754032 .<br /><br />Josie Kafkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17892717530356699008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-9674696126428617142014-01-11T03:30:42.911-05:002014-01-11T03:30:42.911-05:00Aha! I had a feeling that's what you meant. I&...Aha! I had a feeling that's what you meant. I'm having trouble trying to find the right word myself.<br /><br />In this show it definitely feels more tangible than simply symbolism. It reminds me of outta like Deus Ex or Fallout. If this show decided to get completely wacky, I could see The Machine becoming something like Mr. House from New Vegas. I'd probably start to hate the show from that point but hey. I'm not a big sci-fi guy, so I can't really draw any parallels to any novels or movies. But I'd venture there's some cyberpunk story or whatever that has a similar premise concerning different cults vying for some sorta electric god. Root is the fanatical prophet, Collier is the heretical doomsayer, Control is the empire vying to control all, Finch is the chosen one, and Reese and the gang are the anti-heroes caught in the middle. Oh and of course Greer is the shadowy figure in the background that nobody is noticing until it's too late.<br /><br />Yeah, I still think Lost and Fringe have the leg up on this show though.Freemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11265555641080269765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-21446015299912923752014-01-11T02:35:42.680-05:002014-01-11T02:35:42.680-05:00Maybe I should have said "metaphysical."...Maybe I should have said "metaphysical." I was really searching for the right word. "Religion" sounds too much like they're re-enacting a mass; "faith" is all wrong (since so many people in the show don't have faith in the Machine).<br /><br />Then again, all the different groups (sects?) trying to control, not control, take over, discover the Machine is sort of like rival religious sects parsing dogmatic minutiae.<br /><br /><i>Supernatural</i> deals extensively in myth, including Judeo-Christian myths, but I don't think of it as a religious show since there's no sense of...majesty? The sublime? <br /><br />Apparently today's one of those days in which I can't think of the right word at all.Josie Kafkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17892717530356699008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-88399526385449274432014-01-11T02:32:08.093-05:002014-01-11T02:32:08.093-05:00Ah okay that's what you meant. I reckon Root&#...Ah okay that's what you meant. I reckon Root's got a bit of a messiah complex at least concerning Finch, yeah.<br /><br />I was thinking of the shows that actually are about the Bible haha! I know, I'm Mr. Literal here. But I guess most of those are more miniseries than shows.<br /><br />I'd say Lost takes the cake on religious stuff. The main guy's name is Shepard for goodness' sake. And Fringe does some things as well. There were many episodes in Fringe where they outright addressed it. I don't watch the show but I was under the impression that Supernatural touches on religious things pretty often.Freemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11265555641080269765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-2838224167957909972014-01-11T01:30:17.504-05:002014-01-11T01:30:17.504-05:00Freeman, I was thinking of Claypool and Finch talk...Freeman, I was thinking of Claypool and Finch talking about their "children" and the nature of existence, but especially about Root-as-Moses. There's that scene in Exodus when Moses asks permission to see God, and God gives him just a glimpse of His own back. Root seems to get those glimpses of the Machine, more than anyone else. (That's part of the aletheia the title references.) And, of course, we could argue that Moses was God's analog interface. :-)<br /><br />Above all, the way that the show allowed a variety of perspectives (Root's, Finch's, Claypool's, Control's) that were all grappling with this omnipresent and omniprescient force in a way that moved beyond the personal and into the ontological and the "magical." (And by "magical," of course I mean "science we don't fully understand.") <br /><br />There's a scene in <i>Lost</i> in which [redacted by the spoiler kitten] asks [redacted by the spoiler kitten] "What about you?" that is a close runner-up for the title of Most Religious, but I can't think of many other shows that deal with the theological puzzles. Which shows are you thinking of that are more religious than this was?Josie Kafkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17892717530356699008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-1091836110634259362014-01-10T23:15:18.798-05:002014-01-10T23:15:18.798-05:00I can't believe you didn't quote Shaw sayi...I can't believe you didn't quote Shaw saying "It's Hammer Time"! hahaRenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09196147220482763751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-62558278320146061302014-01-10T22:57:45.235-05:002014-01-10T22:57:45.235-05:00I was gonna point out the religious thing in the p...I was gonna point out the religious thing in the previous episode review. I feel like these two episode had a a religious undercurrent in regards to Finch's relationship with the machine. I dunno where you're getting the Moses stuff but I was thinking more in the Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost aspect. Root see The Machine as a god, Claypool sees it as a son, and Finch has a sorta connection to it by his father. But Finch, if you want to get deep with it, is the father, is the son, and created the ghost. And they are one. Not to mention the scene where Root had Control dead to rights came off as when a pastor (albeit a very sinister one) converts a nonbeliever to their flock.<br /><br />Most religious piece of televison? I couldn't say that by a long shot. But I feel like there's definitely a religious thing cropping up. Heck I wouldn't be surprised if Root starts some sorta techno-cult. Or at least some other villain does.Freemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11265555641080269765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-85922452723444566752014-01-10T22:54:46.975-05:002014-01-10T22:54:46.975-05:00“No one ever said we were gonna win, but it doesn’...“No one ever said we were gonna win, but it doesn’t mean you stop fighting.”<br /><br />It's funny that you brought up Buffy with another quote sunbunny, because this line of Fusco's immediately made me think of Angel. In fact, Reese right now kinda reminds me of Angel when he gets into one of his funks. He needs an Epiphany(see what I did there?) and fast. <br /><br />I'm still on the fence when it comes to Root. On the one hand, this weird relationship she has with The Machine is just, well....weird. That scene where she seemed to be playing Mouth Of Sauron for it while threatening Control was the biggest hint about the true nature of The Machine, but it still leaves a metric crapload of questions about just how "alive" it is and what its true intentions are. And I'm a little bothered by the fact that none of the other characters seem completely freaked out by this, especially Finch. This thing is one launch code away from being Skynet, for crying out loud.<br /><br />On the other hand(see, I did remember my original point), Root's still a very compelling character and has only gotten more so since the last few episodes of Season 2. And that is all because of the incredibly talented Amy Acker. From the very beginning she's made Root far more interesting than she would have been with anyone else playing her. That whole interrogation scene between Root & Control was masterfully done. And yes, I recognized the Morse code as soon as it started. I have no idea what the actual message was, but I realized The Machine was talking. :) Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03943327351499919454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-73188976055885682212014-01-10T22:30:43.271-05:002014-01-10T22:30:43.271-05:00I could only hear the Morse code sometimes. Oh, we...I could only hear the Morse code sometimes. Oh, well. I don't want to hear what the kids are screeching in their high-pitched robotic voices, anyway. So there.<br /><br />I felt like this was the most religious episode of television I have ever watched. Did anyone else get a sort of new-religion/Old Testament/Moses/revelation/epiphany feel here? <br /><br />Anyone?<br /><br />Anyone?Josie Kafkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17892717530356699008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-2015853245530554222014-01-10T17:17:29.639-05:002014-01-10T17:17:29.639-05:00Good epiosde, though I had to suspend my disbelief...Good epiosde, though I had to suspend my disbelief a bit it some regards. Anyways, the guy playing young Harold surprises me, sometimes he slips in certain ticks that current Harold has, it impresses me. I enjoy the flashbacks, and the dovetailing with the machine actually helping Claypool with the memory album as Finch originally intended for The Machine to was touching. Finch and Claypool debating destroying Samaritan was great. To me a machine's a machine but the way they spoke about it made you feel their sorrow, good stuff.<br /><br />I think Reese still deserves more time to himself. He was a sorta nihilist still wallowing in the loss of the woman he loved, another woman pulls him out of that and gives him the opportunity to care again, then she dies, more or less because of him. That would mess anybody up, and Reese is a man molded by pain. Plus, he could've really killed Fusco if he was drunk enough. This is a guy that can kill you with a finger-jab haha.<br /><br />And Root. Did a bullet grazing her shoulder really KNOCK her to the floor for like a full minute. Like I thought she got shot in the leg or something but no. She got a movie graze and flopped to the ground, helpless. Maybe it was part of her plan, I dunno. And I'm still trying to figure out how she took out all those presumably armed guards watching her cage with just a knife. Like, I know this show does the "everyone gets beat up off screen" thing with Shaw and Reese but usually they're just normal surrounded. I honestly have no idea how Root managed what she did.<br /><br />I don't know why, but I really like Hersch, and I hope he survived the explosion. It was interesting to see that him and Collier already seemed to have an understanding of each other. And of course Shaw managed to be awesome even while just sticking to the shadows. Lucky for her she managed to blow stuff up anyways. Something tells me Greer may be the real problem and the rest of these guys are basically small fry.<br /><br />Fun fact, I could only hear the morse out of one ear, the ear that Root had the bone taken out of. And when I tilted my head, I couldn't hear the morse at all. Unfortunately I don't know morse code so I couldn't translate it, thanks for the transcript.Freemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11265555641080269765noreply@blogger.com