tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post8687639486738289840..comments2024-03-28T17:08:01.559-04:00Comments on Doux Reviews: Buffy Season Four: Spoilers and ForeshadowingBillie Douxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17141769005175631213noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-86046986374746232222023-02-13T12:53:18.972-05:002023-02-13T12:53:18.972-05:00Anonymous, it's true that there are some revie...Anonymous, it's true that there are some reviews that haven't drawn comments in awhile, but we get comments on old reviews nearly every day. I'm glad you've decided to stop lurking. Comment away!Billie Douxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17141769005175631213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-12430969857270951362023-02-13T12:33:39.074-05:002023-02-13T12:33:39.074-05:00I love reading through all these reviews and comme...I love reading through all these reviews and comments, but it’s quite lonely here, 10 years after the latest comments! Oh well. What brought me out of lurking was from Billie’s review of Harsh Light of Day. - “That bite on Buffy's shoulder is going to be a pain for the makeup department.” My first thought was, then it’s a good thing they didn’t have to deal with season 11. Referencing, to me, one of the most intimate, romantic and moving Spuffey scenes ever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-70551039395424958652014-01-17T18:51:15.998-05:002014-01-17T18:51:15.998-05:00Super Buffy on “Primeval” made me think of how the...Super Buffy on “Primeval” made me think of how the Shadow Men wanted to give her more power on “Get it Done”. It was implied then that the First Slayer was stronger than the average slayer. So was she as strong as Super Buffy? And why did the subsequent slayers had less power?<br /><br />It’s clear the source of the slayer’s power is The First Evil, what with Prime Evil and all (courtesy of Billie’s long second review of “Restless”), but while on “Primeval” the spell the Core Four performed made Buffy stronger and wiser, the power the creators of the slayer wanted to give Buffy on “Get it Done” would make her less human, which is what the First Slayer seems to be. That’s an interesting difference and one that highlights why Buffy is so successful as a slayer: she does not walk alone.<br /><br />On rewatch related comments:<br /><br />My friend who got hocked on the show watched all of it already. He marathoned his way through seasons four to seven (he’s on vacation now) and he sent me a message yesterday saying he had finished the series and was crying devastated by Anya’s death. He loved the series, fell in love with Spike, season five was his favorite (while watching it, he sent me a message thanking me for getting him into watching BtVS) and tomorrow we are having lunch together to discuss Buffy! I’m so happy. :) I plan to post some of his newbie impressions on the comments through the rewatch. There aren’t many, though, since he watched everything so fast.Lamounierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00225447169375363236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-21589575287233328362013-12-20T18:15:13.655-05:002013-12-20T18:15:13.655-05:00It’s really obvious rewatching the show that “Supe...It’s really obvious rewatching the show that “Superstar” was intended to be the Phase Zero of Dawn. There’s also the interesting contrast that on season five no one searches for a way to reverse the spell that inserted Dawn on their memories. They just accept her and that’s it.Lamounierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00225447169375363236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-62492210051804328962013-12-06T13:46:56.952-05:002013-12-06T13:46:56.952-05:00From Billie's review of "This Year's ...From Billie's review of "This Year's Girl,' <i>A Riley/Angel scene would be much much fun, wouldn't it? </i> Oh yes! The upcoming confrontation is one of my favorites in all seven seasons.<br /><br />Lamounier -- I agree with your comment above completely. The Tara/Willow relationship is not only one of the great lesbian relationships ever shown on TV, it is one of the best full stop.ChrisBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10843864158239536750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-91951938125286071642013-12-05T21:34:39.258-05:002013-12-05T21:34:39.258-05:00Willow and Tara’s scenes are somewhat weird on ret...Willow and Tara’s scenes are somewhat weird on retrospect. The subtext of Tara’s “I couldn’t forget that spell we did the other night” (or something like that) was comical knowing what’s coming on “Who Are You?”. Also, Amber Benson is not a very good actress at this point and I thought Tara was bordering-on-annoying way too cute on “Goodbye, Iowa”.<br /><br />Anyway, I like to think of BtVS seasons 4 to 7 as an audiovisual memory of how the treatment of homosexuals couples evolved on TV, and how committed to the cause Buffy writers were.Lamounierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00225447169375363236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-22512153003834715172013-12-03T10:09:37.160-05:002013-12-03T10:09:37.160-05:00The Initiative:
"-- James Marsters is finally...The Initiative:<br />"-- James Marsters is finally in the cast! Which was of course a major clue that he wasn't going to die in this episode."<br /><br />*snicker* If it were up to Joss, actors would only ever enter the cast on their last episode. ;)Remcohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18355810571884915463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-65965630983645243132013-11-22T12:55:58.238-05:002013-11-22T12:55:58.238-05:00And then we get to "The I in Team." Tar...And then we get to "The I in Team." Tara's smile as she closes the door and the fact that Willow doesn't come home should tell us everything we need to know.<br /><br />These two are such a great couple. It's fun to re-live the beginning of this troubled relationship.ChrisBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10843864158239536750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-5160343538471827582013-11-22T11:56:00.107-05:002013-11-22T11:56:00.107-05:00That scene between Tara and Willow with the rose i...That scene between Tara and Willow with the rose in "A New Man" is the best kind of foreshadowing. Looking at it now, it is incredibly sexy.ChrisBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10843864158239536750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-49389164314058292032013-11-15T20:46:19.256-05:002013-11-15T20:46:19.256-05:00I always liked Riley, who was a nice guy and certa...I always liked Riley, who was a nice guy and certainly very easy on the eyes. His problem was that he didn't ask enough questions; he was always ready to follow orders. In many respects his relationship with Buffy was a great learning experience for him - but they couldn't make it long term. Buffy, on the other hand, always challenged the status quo - as did Spike, from the other direction. Buffy and Spike remind me of the yin and yang symbol.Victoria Ghttp://www.tapestryofbronze.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-76123244127678590922013-11-13T00:10:52.377-05:002013-11-13T00:10:52.377-05:00PS...still laughing, sunbunny.PS...still laughing, sunbunny.Mnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-18922830850727397382013-11-13T00:08:04.821-05:002013-11-13T00:08:04.821-05:00hahaha...oh, Spike. Always so insightful and funny...hahaha...oh, Spike. Always so insightful and funny.<br /><br />Great link above, sunbunny. I would be hard pressed to decide who I love more, Buffy or Dean. Mnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-63614415930431181822013-11-12T23:58:32.789-05:002013-11-12T23:58:32.789-05:00There's a reason Spike referred to him as &quo...There's a reason Spike referred to him as "Captain Cardboard."sunbunnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08553429350476841139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-3082730987972782632013-11-12T23:56:10.431-05:002013-11-12T23:56:10.431-05:00Same here, Billie. I can't think of a fictiona...Same here, Billie. I can't think of a fictional couple I have loved more than Buffy and Spike. It was one of the most complex relationships I have ever seen portrayed, for good or bad, romantic or not. I also always liked that Spike respected and admired Buffy's superior strength. <br /><br />Unlike poor old Riley. He looked good on paper...tall, handsome, kind, and corn-fed. I always liked him. Unfortunately, even his cool job couldn't keep him from being super boring. <br /><br /><br /><br /> Mnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-58397624688123870232013-11-12T20:57:03.725-05:002013-11-12T20:57:03.725-05:00I (of course) saw it all when it aired, and didn&#...I (of course) saw it all when it aired, and didn't like Riley much. There was something about him -- maybe his insecurity about Buffy being a superhero? -- that just rubbed me the wrong way, even though Marc Blucas did a good job and Riley was mostly likable. <br /><br />I was deeply, deeply, deeply into Buffy and Spike. I don't think I've ever shipped any couple as much as I did them.Billie Douxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17141769005175631213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-86172124228002531612013-11-12T20:53:57.602-05:002013-11-12T20:53:57.602-05:00I first watched the Buffy in reruns, often out of ...I first watched the Buffy in reruns, often out of order, so I think I saw the Riley can't deal with his girlfriend being stronger than him arc of season five before the meet cute and sweet romance in season four. I just wasn't destined to like him. :/sunbunnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08553429350476841139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-83695129324271302532013-11-12T20:48:43.889-05:002013-11-12T20:48:43.889-05:00Angel and Buffy broke up, Angel left. Oz and Willo...Angel and Buffy broke up, Angel left. Oz and Willow broke up, Oz left. Riley and Buffy break up, you know the tune... I think the writers developed a pattern there, and since many fans never liked Riley, the writers wrote him out of the show. But I agree with you, ChrisB, they could’ve done much more with the character. I actually like his ten-episode arc on season five, it’s the kind of psychological stripping Whedon and co. got really good at on seasons five and six.<br /><br />I never shipped Buffy and Spike, which is why I find upsetting that the show spent so much energy on their non-relationship on season seven.Lamounierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00225447169375363236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-54487809313577785572013-11-12T14:06:40.938-05:002013-11-12T14:06:40.938-05:00I'm surprised by all the negative Riley commen...I'm surprised by all the negative Riley comments. I absolutely adored him and felt that the writers could have done so much more with the character -- especially after the end of the Initiative. And, although it was too late at that point, he could have played a really big role towards the end once Giles leaves.<br /><br />Having said all that, I always shipped Buffy and Spike, so I guess Riley did have to go eventually...ChrisBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10843864158239536750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-32526948354844803672013-11-01T15:25:42.781-04:002013-11-01T15:25:42.781-04:00I was so ready to be annoyed at the show making Wi...I was so ready to be annoyed at the show making Willow a lesbian, which I thought was a cheap ratings-grabber - and then we actually met Tara. And I loved her, and I loved them together. One of TV's best couples :)Juliettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00203399623895589924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-87742644558756877512013-11-01T14:37:02.392-04:002013-11-01T14:37:02.392-04:00The only couple I loved more than Buffy and Spike ...The only couple I loved more than Buffy and Spike are Tara and Willow. Sigh.Billie Douxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17141769005175631213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-89358490931507105522013-11-01T13:59:32.889-04:002013-11-01T13:59:32.889-04:00I had forgotten that Tara enters our world in &quo...I had forgotten that Tara enters our world in "Hush." The chemistry between the two is electric, right from the start. And, I love the way that in a "silent" episode, Willow helps Tara find her voice.<br /><br />Notice the final scene between the two of them. As they talk, Tara's stutter becomes less and less until, finally, it disappears all together.<br /><br />I love these two together!ChrisBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10843864158239536750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-64122885609252015362013-10-28T12:41:17.398-04:002013-10-28T12:41:17.398-04:00Re: Spike being able to punch his way out of the I...Re: Spike being able to punch his way out of the Initiative, I never noticed the discrepancy before either. My first thought (retcon) is maybe Prof. Walsh's attempts to make them supersoldiers made them not exactly human anymore. I don't remember, is Spike shown unable to fight Initiative goons later on? Which isn't to say that I think the writers meant it that way. Much more likely to be a continuity error...Abbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-25399630963628208732013-10-25T18:18:33.371-04:002013-10-25T18:18:33.371-04:00Aside from all the Spike/Buffy stuff in "Some...Aside from all the Spike/Buffy stuff in "Something Blue" (Billie, your comment about their chemistry made me laugh), there's also a lot of Willow + magic = badness. Buffy even says "I think we may be into a forgetting spell later." Tabula Rasa anyone?<br /><br />Buffy and Willow's conversation also reminds me of that time (no idea which episode) Spike is trying to bait Riley and tells him he "just isn't dark enough" and that Buffy "likes a little monster in her man."sunbunnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08553429350476841139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-70003461140796998402013-10-21T00:11:51.289-04:002013-10-21T00:11:51.289-04:00Sunbunny, great link!Sunbunny, great link!Josie Kafkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17892717530356699008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13727952.post-17537112937514520082013-10-19T13:09:33.800-04:002013-10-19T13:09:33.800-04:00Pangs -
More foreshadowing of the dangerous path ...Pangs -<br /><br />More foreshadowing of the dangerous path Willow is on with magic.<br /><br />I can't remember the exact quote but something like 'there some great spells that work better with an ear in the mix' Buffy responding 'that's a nice little you've got yourself there' Anniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08348075897600518734noreply@blogger.com